Domestic surveillance
Posted by aogSunday, 23 June 2013 at 19:19 TrackBack Ping URL

I am still pondering the discussion of the NSA and its domestic surveillance. One thing that is clear to me is that it’s not Snowden vs. the NSA — even if Snowden turns out to be a ChiCom agent that doesn’t mean the NSA surveillance is a good thing. Conversely, even if Snowden is a patriotic whistle blower doesn’t mean the surveillance is bad. I see too many people presuming that these truth values are opposites, when in fact they are only weakly correlated.

But there are some much deeper issues here which make me very nervous. This comment from Instapundit is one I find very plausible —

The administration has admitted to spying on everybody, including the press; collecting every bit of communications and personal data it can, including credit ratings, purchases, and browsing history. Nowhere have they said Congress is exempt. Verizon was the first phone company where it was admitted that everything they touch goes to the NSA. Upon taking office, every member of the House and Senate is handed a Blackberry to do everything on. Who has the contract for the Congressional Blackberries? Verizon.

Since this started in 2009, one has to assume that every member of Congress regardless of party has been compromised, or has family that has been compromised; and is being blackmailed, extorted, or bribed in some form or combination, and is under the control of the administration. This explanation is the Occam’s Razor for why the Congress, the Republican Caucus in particular, has been so passive and refused to fight back against Obama.

There are implications for the future of the country.

I have no doubt many will say “the Administration wouldn’t do that!” but as we’ve seen over the last five years there seems to be very little this Administration won’t do for political advantage.

This is interesting as well — Lawyers eye NSA data as treasure trove for evidence in murder, divorce cases. Why not? I say, bring it on. Let’s see what the public thinks if this kind of data is known to be readily available from the government. The Obama Administration already leaks sensitive data to its political allies why not to everyone?

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Bret Sunday, 23 June 2013 at 21:29

I just wrote a post on the NSA thing as well. Right at the same time you did. Great minds think alike?

you wrote: “…and is being blackmailed, extorted, or bribed…

It doesn’t have to be current tense to compromise them. Even just the future possibility of that is enough to compromise them. I think the SCOTUS justices are in the same boat. I rather wonder if that’s what caused Roberts to change his vote on the Obamacare mandate? If enough people wonder such things, the government rapidly becomes illegitimate (i.e. loses the consent or at least the confidence of the governed).

you wrote: “…why not to everyone?…

It’ll only be democrat lawyers who promise to only go after republicans. I would be surprised if this isn’t happening already.

erp Monday, 24 June 2013 at 07:45

Bret, I’d be surprised if they didn’t.

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