Bad role models
Posted by aogFriday, 09 March 2012 at 18:30 TrackBack Ping URL

What struck me most about the Sandra Fluke episode was how the MAL once again picked a bizarrely inappropriate example for their propaganda efforts. Seriously to dramatize the need for mandated contraception coverage, they picked a 30 year old professional activist law student at one of the most prestigious law schools in the nation? Who likely expects to graduate and become part of the 1%? That’s the best they could do? That’s some bubble they’re living in.

P.S. Of all the lies Fluke said, her economic innumeracy struck me the most. According to the data I can find, medical insurance at her school is $1900 / year. If 3 years of contraception are $3k, that $1K/year or over half of the insurance premium. So Fluke expects either (1) a more than 50% cut in her medical expenses or (2) thinks it is obviously better to pay $2.9K / year in premiums instead of $1.9K for premiums and $1K for contraception. Neither seems of the quality of thought one should expect from a student on a scholarship at such a prestigious institution.

P.S. Best external comment — it takes two to tango, ask that other person to help out.

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Harry Eagar Friday, 09 March 2012 at 21:09

And the best the anti-insurors can do is a bankrupt who welshed on her medical bills.

This is too funny, except that the highest court in the land agreed to hear the suit based on this subterfuge.

Annoying Old Guy Saturday, 10 March 2012 at 09:08

It’s OK to live in your own little world, but when you talk about, you should provide a little bit of a guide for the non-natives. I really have no idea at all what you mean, or to what you refer. “Anti-insurors”?

AVeryRoughRoadAhead - Winter is coming... Saturday, 10 March 2012 at 11:50

Controversy jumps shark:

[Gloria Allred] is calling for Rush Limbaugh to be prosecuted on a defamation charge, [citing] an 1883 law making it a misdemeanor to question a woman’s chastity. […]

[The Florida law] says, “Whoever speaks of and concerning any woman, married or unmarried, falsely and maliciously imputing to her a want of chastity, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree.”

Annoying Old Guy Saturday, 10 March 2012 at 13:50

The best comment on that was the point that mandating contraceptive coverage implies a “want of chastity” on basically the entire female population of the USA, so why isn’t Allred filing lawsuits against HHS Secretary Sebelius? And, by the way, what ever happened to all those women attacked by Herman Cain she was helping? Under the bus, one presumes…(of course, if she brings up this law, maybe they could have Allred arrested too!).

erp Saturday, 10 March 2012 at 15:06

aog, those women were dem operatives too. I sincerely hope there is a brokered convention and Cain gets the nod and brings Rick Perry back as VP. A sharecropper’s son and a good old boy at the top of government!

Wouldn’t that be an “Only in America!” moment.

Harry Eagar Saturday, 10 March 2012 at 16:51

Implies a want of chastity? In what universe? They don’t sell contraceptives to wives?

You might want to follow the news.

The Los Angeles Times has the story about how the anti-insuror forces (words carefully chosen to reflect facts) recruited a deadbeat who welshed on her medical bills to carry the mandate challenge.

The lawyers opine that this will NOT disqualify the cert — too funny again — but it’s sort of like citing rapists to support a moral argument against medical insurance.

Most entertaining electoral year ever, even better than ‘68.

Hey Skipper Saturday, 10 March 2012 at 22:52
Implies a want of chastity? In what universe? They don’t sell contraceptives to wives?

I can’t speak for all other universes, but in this universe lots of women aren’t married.

The question most begged, but scarcely acknowledged by progressives is this: in what universe does it make sense to force those who do not use contraception to subsidize those who do?

Annoying Old Guy Saturday, 10 March 2012 at 23:27

They don’t sell contraceptives to wives?

A little over eagerness on the keyboard, my bad. Hey Skipper provided the appropriate correction.

You might want to follow the news.

The Los Angeles Times […]

Are those related?

But presuming the LA Times covers actual news, the last time you referenced the LA Times it turned out you’d read it wrong and the actual content provided no basis for your claim. I have no interest in doing your (failed) research again so if you don’t have a link, I’ll presume you’re just making it up.

I would also point out that selecting an exemplar for a public relations campaign has somewhat different criteria than a selection for legal purposes.

Harry Eagar Sunday, 11 March 2012 at 14:30

Key quote from antimandater flack (from memory) :You’d be surprised how hard it is to find someone to serve as the example.

(Really, I wasn’t surprised at all.)

So all they could get was someone who welshed on her medical bills.

Annoying Old Guy Sunday, 11 March 2012 at 15:56

No link, vague “they”, unsourced quote — now I see why I should read the daily paper for solid, reliable information. I am constantly amazed at the effort you put in to commenting while providing absolutely as little information as possible. Does preciseness hurt you like sunlight hurts vampires?

Hey Skipper Monday, 12 March 2012 at 00:16

From the link at the top:

WARNING: the following is so stupid that nearly certain side effects from reading it include physical pain, wretching, and violent head shaking.

The New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd over the weekend faulted Mr. Limbaugh for saying that insuring contraception would represent another “welfare entitlement.” That, Ms. Dowd insisted, “is wrong — tax dollars would not provide the benefit, employers and insurance companies would.”

That progressives think of themselves as the intellectual elite has to be the very apex of irony.

AVeryRoughRoadAhead - Winter is coming... Monday, 12 March 2012 at 01:31

That progressives think of themselves as the intellectual elite has to be the very apex of irony.

Dear God, so very, very true. Leftists are quite often credentialed, but unfortunately not necessarily well-educated.

For instance, not only is the distinction between “spending tax dollars” and imposing an unfunded mandate asinine, but the contraception mandate ISN’T INSURANCE - that which is voluntary and predictable cannot be insured against, despite forcing insurance companies to dispense the subsidy. It is, at best, a mutual-aid society.

AVeryRoughRoadAhead - Winter is coming... Monday, 12 March 2012 at 01:45

Perhaps she ought to advise the Romney campaign during the general:

Hayley Wade Wins University of Calgary Student Election - crude but brilliant.

Annoying Old Guy Monday, 12 March 2012 at 06:41

I think the official term is “credentialed moron”.

erp Monday, 12 March 2012 at 09:24

Yes. Their credentials are in propaganda studies, not serious disciplines.

Hey Skipper Monday, 12 March 2012 at 19:42

NB: Dowd has made it crystal clear that well beyond religious freedom, although it is easily abusive enough in that regard, this whole notion of contraception coverage absolutely requires that everyone who admires it has succumbed to the very same magical thinking.

Unfortunately, Limbaugh ended up making the story about him, not how stupid Fluke and her ilk (great name for a rock band, BTW) must be in order to spout this nonsense and, by extension, a great deal of everything that spews from a progressive’s mouth or keyboard.

Annoying Old Guy Tuesday, 13 March 2012 at 14:14

Hey Skipper;

For you

Vice President Joe Biden addressed 87 wealthy Democrats last night attending a fundraiser at the home of Sen. John Kerry in Georgetown. As they dined on grass-fed New York strip steaks and white truffle mashed potatos underneath a outdoor tent, Biden criticized Republicans for being out of touch.

“These guys don’t have a sense of the average folks out there,” Biden said according to the pool report, “They don’t know what it means to be middle class.”

87 guests paid a minimum of $10,000-per-couple to attend the dinner.

And yet people think Palin was the unqualified one.

AVeryRoughRoadAhead - Winter is coming... Thursday, 15 March 2012 at 12:31

Would you recommend to Romney that he choose Palin as VP, and to Palin that she accept?

Annoying Old Guy Thursday, 15 March 2012 at 14:22

Ah, that’s a very tough question. Personally I would be thrilled. In fact, I spent a bit of time yesterday trying to design a sign that said basically “[Insert Name Here] / Palin 2012”.

In terms of practical politics (which I know I’ve hit you about previously) I’m not so sure. Old Media did such a thorough job of smearing her and continue to do so (witness the latest advert from the Obama campaign featuring … Sarah Palin, or the recent Game Change movie which exists entirely as a hit piece on Palin). There’s plenty of evidence that Palin was stifled as the VP candidate for Senator McCain and I don’t see any reason to think Romney would do differently. So you’d end up with the worst of both worlds, vicious attacks used to distract from the utter failure of the Obama Administration and a muzzled Palin. So, sadly, probably not.

Annoying Old Guy Thursday, 22 March 2012 at 08:45

It’s seems a compliment to Palin for people who think President Obama is smart to call her stupid.

erp Thursday, 22 March 2012 at 09:03

As Bush said in his graduation address to Yalies … and to you ‘C’ students — even you can be president (and he was a darn good one IMO).

School “larning” isn’t the only measure of being smart. There’re those very hard to measure things called wisdom and judgment which are a lot harder to come by and impossible for arrogant narcissists* like Obama and his groupies.

*sorry for the redundancy

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