It doesn't become men either
Posted by aogThursday, 08 May 2008 at 13:37 TrackBack Ping URL

I normally find John McWhorter reasonable, but I have to single out this quote from a recent article of his, which seems to show a lack of his normally acute sociological insight —

“She’ll stop at nothing to get power” — okay, but is that so unusual in a politician? Power-seeking is what alpha males do. I sometimes wonder whether one thing that gets people’s knickers in such a twist about Mrs. Clinton is that she displays alpha male behavior as a woman.

My first thought was “what men who’ll stop at nothing to get power are admired?”. After all, even former President Richard Nixon stopped at something (vs. Kennedy, and vs. impeachment) yet he’s reviled for his excessive power lust. Many of the people who revile Hillary Clinton for her power lust think she’s less restrained than Nixon1, so it doesn’t strike me as much of a gender based view.

But there’s another, more subtle issue about women display alpha male power lust, and that is in the Anglosphere, a man is expected to also follow some sort of honor code, even if it’s honored mostly in the breach. Women don’t have (or aren’t expected to have) any parallel code, which makes an arguable case for viewing female power lust as more dangerous to bystanders. I.e., “stop at nothing” means something different depending on the gender of the person being discussed2.


1 Of which I am one.

2 This comes around to OJ’s view of th GOP being the Daddy party and the Democratic Party the Mommy party, where politicians of the latter stripe are simply expected to be far less restrained in their pursuit of power.

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Brad S Friday, 09 May 2008 at 10:31

This is sillier than silly; more rationalizations on the way to a “thumpin” on Nov. 4 (only 179 days until GOP Doomsday).

I don’t know how to get this through to conservatives. We MUST realize that, in the modern political era, the Republican Party is not meant to be a global leader of our nation, which is a historic role. Look, Bush arguably became the first Republican since Theodore Roosevelt to be a global leader on the scale that leaders like Wilson, FDR, Truman, and Kennedy were able to project. And during the time of those leaders, Republicans were allowed to have loser “America First” sentiments, but at the end of the day were EXPECTED to salute everything those leaders ran up the flagpole while saying “Politics stops at the water’s edge.” Not only could Democrats never say “Politics stops at the water’s edge,” but also actively engaged in enough sedition to wear the GOP down and throw it off the global leader role these last four years.

It’s very simple: Republicans and conservatives are better suited to say “Me, too” to leadership by the Dems. The Democrats will NEVER, EVER, say “Me, too!”

So, Republicans, when Obama runs something up the flagpole, will you salute? Or will you be MEN for once in your lives and actively RESIST?!

Annoying Old Guy Friday, 09 May 2008 at 11:03

I am not quite following how this comment relates to the original post.

cjm Saturday, 10 May 2008 at 09:29

i think it is a “cri de couer” that was triggered by mentioning the GOP as the “Daddy” party.

David Cohen Saturday, 10 May 2008 at 10:00

Isn’t the point that, in modern political discourse, Democrats have vision and Republicans lust for power? That Republicans, because at the margin we’re more likely to respect authority and believe that it’s important to present a united face to the world, will accept Democrat foreign policy, while Democrats will not accede to Republican foreign policy?

I think, though, that this ignores the extent to which the Democrats really have become the party of socialist one-world Euro-weenies.

Annoying Old Guy Saturday, 10 May 2008 at 13:09

Mr. Cohen;

But that’s not internally consistent. The party with the lust for power is precisely the one that won’t accept its opponent’s policies, not even for the sake of a united front. So either it’s the GOP with the lust for power, or the GOP that will accept Democratic Party foreign policy for the sake of unity, but the GOP can’t be both.

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