Why won't Obama be HRC's VP?
Posted by aogSaturday, 08 March 2008 at 23:14 TrackBack Ping URL

Two words: “Al Gore”.

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Gronker Sunday, 09 March 2008 at 22:15

No chance.

Well, if she is willing sacrifice the general to beat Obama, maybe. But Hillary needs to try move to the middle to beat McCain and Gore couldnt find the middle if you strapped a Big Mac to it. And he doesnt miss many of those. She has to find someone that helps her out in middle america and brings her ticket to the middle more. Evan Bayh would be perfect.

Al Gore is completely destroyed his politcal career, thankfully. Besides, can you see Bill allowing a threat to his behind the scenes control of the White House. No way.

Annoying Old Guy Monday, 10 March 2008 at 08:37

I need to be less cryptic. I was thinking of Al Gore not as an alternative, but an example demonstrating what happens to people’s political careers from being a VP for a Clinton.

Robert Mitchell Jr. Monday, 10 March 2008 at 11:03

Amen sir. I remember Al Gore before the Clintons, when he looked like an adult.…..

Gronker Monday, 10 March 2008 at 11:37

Ahh… Yeah, I agree that Obama would be a fool to take the 2nd seat in his situation.

cjm Tuesday, 11 March 2008 at 19:38

obama, could however, take the vp slot with mccain (once the witch has her prize in hand)

Gronker Wednesday, 12 March 2008 at 02:56

Oh, man. Never happen but wow, what a great thing if it did. Be the biggest landslide in decades.

erp Wednesday, 12 March 2008 at 07:57

Landslide for whom?

Gronker Wednesday, 12 March 2008 at 14:58

McCain/Obama. Its never gonna happen, but HillyBilly wouldn’t get 20%

Husker Wednesday, 12 March 2008 at 15:16

Hillary will pick Bill Richardson, or some ex-military guy like Jim Webb.

pj Tuesday, 18 March 2008 at 07:47

I don’t know … With the exposure of the Wright videos, Obama would benefit by stepping back from the limelight and having a decade to re-construct a moderate image before his next presidential run … Serving as VP would keep him in the limelight as a Dem hope … and averting a bitter fight at the convention would win him gratitude from the superdelegates and give the first substance in support of his claim to be a uniter and healer. He’s better off conceding and becoming VP for Hillary than winning the nomination in a bitter fight and then losing the general with a national reputation as a cypto-radical black nationalist.

McCain/Obama … It’s hard for me to imagine something Obama would be less inclined toward. He hates McCain.

erp Tuesday, 18 March 2008 at 09:14

Uber-cynical me thinks all these “revelations” prior to the convention were to take them off the table for the presidential campaign … and yes, I do think that the plan all along was for a Clinton/Obama ticket.

They’ll kiss and make up on stage at the convention and offer voters a brand new fall reality show based on pandering to a laundry list of one special interest group after the other.

The numquats and media will go nuts. Dancing in the streets will ensue and the drum beat will keep up until November 4th.

Will McCain be able to compete with the frenzied hoopla?

Annoying Old Guy Tuesday, 18 March 2008 at 09:27


Ah, but my original point was that was what Al Gore did, and look what happened to him.


At this point, I don’t think HRC would want to put that kind of tar baby in the seat next to her. And as noted above, as bad as this is, 4 or 8 years of being a Clinton VP is likely to be worse.

pj Tuesday, 18 March 2008 at 09:49

AOG - Yes, but would history repeat itself? Al Gore did himself in by turning to the left, with an angry convention speech naming Americans as his enemies, and acting creepily in debates. If he’d just run a boring campaign saying, “we’ve brought eight years of prosperity and peace; I’ll keep on keeping on, just without the scandals,” he’d have won. Obama is a more disciplined campaigner with a lifelong practice of disguising his views; he’s skilled at acting moderate. He also has a built in constituency of blacks and those who believe a black president would heal racial divides, and these supporters will vouch for him. Finally, I doubt Hillary would repeat her husband’s scandals. She has been disciplined, albeit consistently leftist. Most of her negative effects would take longer than eight years to manifest themselves; many of the others would fall on Republicans and wouldn’t disturb her/Barack’s voters.

erp - I don’t believe this was choreographed, but I agree that it works out well for Hillary. What could establish her as a moderate more effectively than to have an even more radical leftist come within a breath of the nomination? Suddenly her vices may seem petty rather than scary.

cjm Tuesday, 18 March 2008 at 12:54

both illinois and new york have open govenorships, so i imagine whatever candidate misses out on the chance to lose to mccain will go for the opening in his/her home state. only a borman like toady (hello bill r.) would ever accept the vp slot from hillary, talk about your poisoned chalice!

erp Tuesday, 18 March 2008 at 14:06

Time will tell. Neither of them may have a choice by the time of the convention and the Clintons couldn’t get away with doing to Obama what they did to Gore.

Annoying Old Guy Tuesday, 18 March 2008 at 14:31


You’d think so, but like the Joker’s henchmen, it seems quite possible to get away with it.

Just look at what happened to Yagoda and Yezhov, successive heads of the NKVD. The first probably killed his boss for the job, before getting destroyed by the White Terror he ran. Then Yezhoz took over, and was himself swept away in the same manner. They probably thought there were too clever to get caught like their predecessors, and Obama is a clever guy…

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